This debate consists of the thoughts of Jain Aacharya Shri Vijay Dharam Dhurandhar Sureshwar ji and Sant Rampal Ji Maharaj. Jain Acharya believes in two forms of supreme god: Sakaar, the tangible embodiment of Arihant, who establishes righteousness and enlightenment, lasting until attaining nirvana (Moksha). Worshipping Arihant is called Sakaar Upaasna. While the contemplation of the soul of supreme God is known as Nirakaar Bhakti. So according to him Jain followers engage in Sakaar Bhakti and Nirakar Bhakti both.
In the debate Acharya confirms his belief in the authenticity of Veda and Geeta ji. According to Acharya, the sound "om" is not exclusive to any particular philosophy, but rather exists in all of them. It is believed by some that it symbolises the "Namaskar mantra". Furthermore, Acharya states that Tirthankara is liberated from the cycle of rebirth.
Sant Rampal ji Maharaj uses the book “Aao Jain Dharam Ko Jaane'' for his points. He says that Rishabhdev (Baba Adam) is mentioned on page 154 in "Aao Jain Dharam Ko Jaane". In Hazrat Mohammad's biography, it’s written that he travelled on 'Burak' to visit 'Baitool Makdees' and prayed with respected individuals like Ibrahim Alehee Salam, Hazrat Musa Ji and Hazrat Isa-Ali. Hazrat Muhammad saw Baba Adam crying. Baba Adam's righteous children were in Heaven on the right side, while his disobedient children suffered on the left side. This proves that the soul of Adam didn’t get salvation.
Marichi, initiated by his grandfather Rishabh Dev, became Lord Mahavir after many lifetimes. In "Aao Jain Dharm Ko Jaane," it is mentioned that Mahavir Jain experienced various life forms and hardships. Above two examples prove that Tirthankaras are also in the cycle of death and birth.
The Gita teaches about the cycle of birth and rebirth and chanting 'Om' to connect with God. However, chanting 'Om' alone doesn't lead to liberation from rebirth.
From the spiritual debate it’s clear that Aacharya Shri Vijay Dharam Dhurandhar Sureshwar ji is not having any spiritual knowledge.
FAQs : "Spiritual Discussion - Sant Rampal Ji & Acharya Shri Vijay Dharam Dhurandhar Sureshwar Ji"
Q.1 What are the two forms of supreme God according to Jain Acharya and Sant Rampal Ji Maharaj?
Jain Acharya believes in Sakaar and Nirakaar forms of supreme God, while Sant Rampal Ji Maharaj emphasizes a singular, human like form God.
Q.2 How do the beliefs of Jain Acharya and Sant Rampal Ji Maharaj differ regarding the liberation from the cycle of rebirth?
Jain Acharya asserts that Tirthankaras are liberated from the cycle of rebirth, whereas Sant Rampal Ji Maharaj presents examples from the book "Aao Jain Dharam Ko Jaane" suggesting that even Tirthankaras are subject to the cycle of birth and death due to worship against scriptures.
Q. 3 What is the significance of Vedas and Geeta ji in the beliefs of Jain Acharya and Sant Rampal Ji Maharaj?
Jain Acharya confirms the authenticity of Vedas and Geeta ji but the way of worship is against these scriptures, whereas Sant Rampal Ji Maharaj emphasize their significance in the same manner and provides the way of worship aligning with these scriptures.
Q.4 How do Jain Acharya and Sant Rampal Ji Maharaj interpret the chanting of 'Om'?
Jain Acharya views chanting 'Om' as a universal practice existing in all philosophies, while Sant Rampal Ji Maharaj acknowledges its presence but suggests that chanting 'Om' alone does not lead to liberation from rebirth.
Q.5 What is the perspective of Jain Acharya and Sant Rampal Ji Maharaj on the concept of Sakaar Upaasna and Nirakaar Bhakti?
Jain Acharya believes in both Sakaar Upaasna (worship of Arihant) and Nirakaar Bhakti (contemplation of the formless aspect of God), whereas Sant Rampal Ji Maharaj emphasize the worship of corporeal God KavirDev as mentioned in Vedas.
Q.6 How do Jain Acharya and Sant Rampal Ji Maharaj interpret the journey of Hazrat Muhammad and his encounter with Baba Adam as mentioned in "Aao Jain Dharam Ko Jaane"?
Sant Rampal Ji Maharaj quotes the example from "Aao Jain Dharam Ko Jaane" to explain that even prominent figures like Baba Adam were not liberated from the cycle of rebirth, while Jain Acharya's believe that they are liberated.
Q.7 According to Sant Rampal Ji Maharaj, what is the fate of Tirthankaras like Lord Mahavir as mentioned in "Aao Jain Dharm Ko Jaane"?
Sant Rampal Ji Maharaj suggests that even Tirthankaras like Lord Mahavir experienced various life forms and hardships, indicating that they too were subject to the cycle of birth and death due to incorrect way of worship, contrary to Jain Acharya's belief.
Recent Comments
Latest Comments by users
If you have any query regarding the above content then please email us at [email protected], we will try to solve it with proof.
Mokshesh Jain
In exploring religions, one finds that Jainism stands out. While many devotees may not readily relinquish their lavish lifestyles for God, in Jainism, numerous capitalists are forsaking their homes, families, and everything for spiritual pursuit. This demonstrates the unique power of Jainism. Therefore, the worship practices adopted by Jainism surpass those of any other religion.
Satlok Ashram
Dear readers, we highly value your insights on our article. Upon reading and viewing the provided content, it's imperative to contemplate the evidence presented regarding how Mahavir Jain endured suffering across different lifetimes despite adhering to the worship practices outlined in Jainism. While it's commendable that individuals possess such fervent desire for God that they undertake the arduous path of renunciation, it's crucial to understand that merely leaving behind one's home and family does not guarantee salvation. True salvation can only be attained through the correct method of worship, as guided by an enlightened Saint. Whether practiced within the confines of familial life or through renunciation is inconsequential; what matters is adhering to the scriptures under the guidance of a complete Saint. It saddens us to witness devout seekers making significant sacrifices yet remaining ensnared in erroneous worship practices that fail to lead them to salvation. We earnestly urge you to comprehend the nature of God, spirituality, and the path to salvation as elucidated in our scriptures, by engaging with the spiritual discourses of Sant Rampal Ji Maharaj and reading the book Gyan Ganga to ensure the success of your human life.